Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/13/1997 01:40 PM House FIN

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               HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                         
                   MARCH 13, 1997                                              
                      1:40 P.M.                                                
                                                                               
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CALL TO ORDER                                                                  
                                                                               
Co-Chair Gene Therriault called the House Finance Committee meeting            
to order at 1:40 P.M.                                                          
                                                                               
PRESENT                                                                        
                                                                               
Co-Chair Hanley               Representative Kelly                             
Co-Chair Therriault           Representative Kohring                           
Representative Davies         Representative Martin                            
Representative Davis          Representative Moses                             
Representative Foster         Representative Mulder                            
Representative Grussendorf                                                     
                                                                               
ALSO PRESENT                                                                   
                                                                               
Representative Brian Porter; Jeff Bush, Attorney, Deputy                       
Commissioner, Department of Commerce and Economic Development; Pam             
LaBolle, President, Alaska State Chamber of Commerce; Michael                  
Lessmeier, Attorney, State Farm Insurance Company, Juneau; Ross                
Mullins, (Testified via teleconference), Cordova; Jack Hopkins,                
(Testified via teleconference), Cordova; David McGuire, (Testified             
via teleconference), Anchorage; Dick Cattanach, (Testified via                 
teleconference), Anchorage; Mike Schneider, (Testified via                     
teleconference), Attorney, Anchorage; Daryl Nelson, (Testified via             
teleconference), Anchorage; Frank Dillon, (Testified via                       
teleconference), Executive Director, Alaska Trucking Association,              
Anchorage; Paul Cossman, (Testified via teleconference), Lawyer,               
Anchorage; Tim Dooley, (Testified via teleconference), Attorney,               
Anchorage; Mauri Long, (Testified via teleconference), Attorney,               
President, Trial Lawyer Association, Anchorage; Karen Cowart,                  
(Testified via teleconference), The Alliance, Anchorage; Orin                  
Seybert, (Testified via teleconference), Alaska Air Carriers                   
Association, Anchorage; Leonard Efta, (Testified via                           
teleconference), Kenai; Susan Ross, (Testified via teleconference),            
Kenai; Paul Sweet, (Testified via teleconference), Matsu.                      
                                                                               
SUMMARY                                                                        
                                                                               
HB 58     An Act relating to civil actions; amending Rules 49 and              
          68, Alaska Rules of Civil Procedure; amending Rule 702,              
          Alaska Rules of Evidence; and providing for an effective             
          date.                                                                
                                                                               
          HB 58 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.               
HOUSE BILL 58                                                                  
                                                                               
     "An Act relating to civil actions; amending Rules 49 and 68,              
     Alaska Rules of Civil Procedure; amending Rule 702, Alaska                
     Rules of Evidence; and providing for an effective date."                  
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER stated that many individuals and                   
business have already experienced the nightmares of litigation that            
drag on for years and the high legal costs associated with them.               
Lawsuits in this country have proliferated.  Litigation has become             
an industry.  Contingent fee contracts give up to 40% of injured               
victims' damage recoveries to trial lawyers.  The incentives to                
create the most litigious society on earth are firmly in place.  He            
stressed that as a consequence, the cost of liability insurance has            
become unaffordable to many.  In some areas of the State, there are            
no domestic insurance companies which will write a liability                   
insurance policy for any price.  Across the country, and throughout            
Alaska, there is an outcry for reforming our civil justice system.             
Ordinary people and business of all sizes seek relief from a flawed            
system.  A more efficient and fair method of compensating wrongly              
injured victims must be crafted and maintained.                                
                                                                               
The consulting actuarial firm, Tillinghast, reported in 1992 that              
about 50% of damage awards of some $132 billion dollars spent                  
nationwide went to the injured party.  The remaining 50% went to               
the cost of litigation and attorney fees.  From that information,              
it is apparent that if current tort system is judged as a method of            
compensating accident victims for their losses, it is both                     
inefficient and unfair.  He continued, inefficient because only                
about half of the cost goes toward any form of compensation for                
victims and unfair because many injured victims receive                        
insufficient compensation to no compensation at all.                           
                                                                               
He continued, in contrast with the foregoing deficiencies, the                 
workers' compensation system returns about 70% of the workers'                 
compensation insurance premium dollars to the injured party.  The              
efficiencies enjoyed in the health insurance industry are even                 
higher, with about 85% of health insurance premium dollars being               
returned to the beneficiary.  The most efficient is Social                     
Security, with 99% of the social security taxes collected being                
returned to the beneficiaries of that system.  The relative                    
certainty of recovery, and the certainty in the amount of recovery             
under that system, stands in stark contrast to the uncertainties               
inherent in the litigation of claims and defenses.  The absence of             
uncertainty and high costs of litigation in these alternative                  
systems makes clear that there is a compelling need for substantial            
reforms in the civil justice system.                                           
                                                                               
Representative Porter explained that the legislation was comprised             
of three sections, one of which passed the House Floor last year.              
It also incorporates several portions that the Governor's Task                 
Force recommended during the summer tort reform discussions.                   
                                                                               
Representative Porter highlighted the points from the Governor's               
Task Force which had been incorporated into the proposed                       
legislation.                                                                   
                                                                               
     Section 19.  Definition; intentional torts.  This section is              
     taken verbatim from the report of the Governor's Task Force.              
     The section amends AS 09.17.900 to clarify its application to             
     intentional acts.                                                         
                                                                               
     Section 23.  Interest on judgments; prejudgment interest.                 
     This section would provide for a floating or variable interest            
     rate on judgments and prejudgment interest by making it three             
     hundred basic points above the discount rate at the 12th                  
     Federal Reserve District, as of January 2, of the year in                 
     which the judgement or decree is entered.  Once set by this               
     section, the interest rate does not change until satisfaction             
     of the judgment or decree.  Using the discount rate of the                
     12th Federal Reserve District would be consistent with the way            
     interest rates are determined under the usury statute, AS                 
     45.45.010(b).  The Governor's Task Force report recommended a             
     floating interest rate on judgments and prejudgment interest.             
     This section should satisfy those concerns.                               
                                                                               
     Section 28  Medical advisory panels.                                      
     Section 29  Expert advisory panel; panel questions.                       
     Section 30  Expert advisory panel; discovery.                             
     Section 31  Expert advisory panel; public sector provider.                
                                                                               
     Section 37.  Damages resulting from commission of a felony, or            
     while under the influence of alcohol or drugs.  The Governor's            
     Task Force report recommended that a person who sustains                  
     personal injuries or death during the commission, or attempted            
     commission of a felony, should be barred from recovering                  
     damages for those injuries.                                               
                                                                               
     Section 46.  Settlement information.  This section is taken               
     verbatim from the report of the Governor's Task Force.  It is             
     intended to improve upon existing Superior Court, fast track              
     procedures by providing for a meeting of the parties and a                
     pretrial conference.                                                      
                                                                               
     Section 48.  Sanctions for rule violations.  This section                 
     modifies Civil Rule 95 by imposing increased sanctions against            
     attorneys and their clients for any infraction of the rules,              
     including Civil Rule 11.  It permits fines of up to $10                   
     thousand dollars against attorneys, which was increased from              
     $1 thousand dollars under existing rule.                                  
                                                                               
Representative Porter addressed the new sections of the bill.                  
                                                                               
     Section 35.  Civil liability of electric utility.  This                   
     section would provide immunity from strict liability for                  
     publicly regulated electric utility companies for the                     
     generation, distribution, and sale of electricity.  The                   
     section would make it clear that the provision of electricity,            
     from the time it is generated until the consumer utilized it,             
     would be a provision of service, and would not change its                 
     character from a service to a product.                                    
                                                                               
     Section 40.  Appointment of independent counsel; conflicts of             
     interest.  This section makes an insurer responsible only for             
     the costs and attorney fees incurred by the independent                   
     counsel defending against claims for which the insurer has                
     either accepted coverage or reserved their right to deny                  
     coverage.                                                                 
                                                                               
     Section 41.  Appointment of independent counsel; conflicts of             
     interest.  In the context of an insured, represented by                   
     independent counsel, the section allows an insurer to settle              
     directly with a plaintiff as to claims for which the insurer              
     has either accepted coverage or reserved their right to deny              
     coverage.                                                                 
                                                                               
     Section 42.  Workers' compensation lien.  This section would              
     be a consistency change to the workers' compensation statutes             
     required by the change in Section 18 of the Act.                          
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 97-58, Side 2).                                               
                                                                               
ROSS MULLINS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), CORDOVA, testified in            
opposition to HB 58.   He ascertained that the punitive damage                 
section of the bill would be detrimental to maintaining a safe                 
environment when addressing oil transportation measures.  The                  
proposed caps are too low to be efficient when dealing with the oil            
industry.  He reiterated that the levels proposed for punitive                 
damages are not sufficient.  Mr. Mullins pointed out that the                  
recommendations made in the Governor's proposal would be more                  
satisfactory for people living in coastal Alaska and could address             
the magnitude of the "wrong-doer".                                             
                                                                               
JACK HOPKINS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), CORDOVA, testified in            
opposition to the legislation.  He stated that the only people who             
will benefit from the legislation will be the insurance companies              
and "other" big business.                                                      
                                                                               
DAVID MCGUIRE, M.D., (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE,                
voiced support for the proposed legislation.  He commented that in             
1976, malpractice insurance became unavailable for many doctors.               
As a result of that action, the legislature formed an organization             
called Medical Indemnity Corporation of Alaska (MICA) which was                
designed to provide doctors with malpractice insurance.  Dr.                   
McGuire provided written testimony.  (Copy on file).  He urged                 
Committee members to support the legislation.                                  
                                                                               
DICK CATTANACH, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE,                     
testified in support of the legislation.  Written testimony was                
submitted to the Committee.  (Copy on file).  He noted that the                
bill was complex and deals with many issues which are important to             
Alaska's economy.  The recommendations from the Governor's task                
force were also considered and many were included as they addressed            
issues that had not been previously considered.  Mr. Cattanach                 
urged the Committee's support of the legislation.                              
                                                                               
MIKE SCHNEIDER, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ATTORNEY,                      
ANCHORAGE, voiced opposition to HB 58.  He stated that the                     
Governor's task force proved the public's misperception that the               
"wheels were off the justice cart".  Mr. Schneider summarized that             
many provisions in the bill do a disservice to each legislator's               
constituents.                                                                  
                                                                               
DARYL NELSON, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ANCHORAGE, voiced                
opposition to the legislation.  He noted concern with the statute              
of repose, stipulating that many parents with new babies born with             
disabilities do not realize that the child has a problem until                 
later as the child develops.  He believed that section of the bill             
would be detrimental to all people with disabilities.                          
                                                                               
FRANK DILLON, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,              
ALASKA TRUCKING ASSOCIATION, ANCHORAGE, testified in support of the            
proposed legislation.  He emphasized that America was "drowning" in            
a sea of judicial abuse.  HB 58 is a small but much needed step                
toward complete reconstruction of the legal system.  He urged the              
Committee's support of the legislation.                                        
                                                                               
LEONARD EFTA, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), KENAI, testified in              
opposition to HB 58.  Mr. Efta referenced Section 1 of the bill,               
stating that such measures would not be "beneficial" to any                    
"ordinary" people.                                                             
                                                                               
SUSAN ROSS, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), KENAI, spoke against               
the proposed legislation.  She suggested that the bill was being               
driven by "material representation".  Ms. Ross spoke about being               
recruited for lobbying on tort reform.  After an in-depth study,               
she realized that tort reform had "nothing" to do with a judicial              
or legal reform.                                                               
                                                                               
She elaborated that insurance benefits will not decrease with                  
passage of the legislation.  She strongly urged members to pay                 
attention to the voice of their constituents and not pass the bill             
from Committee.                                                                
                                                                               
PAUL SWEET, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), MATSU, voiced                      
opposition to the proposed legislation.  He spoke to the punitive              
damages as addressed in the legislation.  Mr. Sweet added that 95%             
of campaign financing contributions came from large corporations.              
He questioned if legislators loyalties originated "out of pocket"              
or for the constituents which they represent.  Co-Chair Therriault             
replied, last year Campaign Reform legislation had been passed,                
which would cut off contributions received from corporations.                  
                                                                               
PAUL COSSMAN, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), LAWYER, ANCHORAGE,               
testified against HB 58.  He realized that a tort reform bill would            
be forthcoming and proposed that the bill be "worked" on                       
cooperatively so it become acceptable to all people.                           
                                                                               
He agreed with Section 1 of the bill, decreasing the cost and                  
complexity of litigation.  Mr. Cossman advised that Section 16                 
would be contrary to the goal of having the jury determine fault.              
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 97-59, Side 1).                                               
                                                                               
Mr. Cossman advised under Section 16, the jury determination of the            
fault premise would change, as the defendant would no longer have              
the right to bring in the third party defendant, allocating the                
fault to them.  He suggested that this action would cause the                  
plaintiff's to instigate more law suits, and otherwise, insurance              
rates would rise.  He advised that to decrease the costs and                   
complexity of litigation, the system should be left the way it is.             
TIM DOOLEY, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), LAWYER, ANCHORAGE,                 
spoke in opposition to the proposed legislation.  He pointed out               
that dispute resolution systems in other third world countries use             
burning huts and machetes; our system does not yet.  He pointed out            
that our system is not "tragic" or "evil" as suggested in previous             
testimony and that many countries throughout the world would prefer            
the system we have.                                                            
                                                                               
Mr. Dooley stressed that someone will have to pay for the cost of              
the injury.  The legislation will relieve the person at fault from             
paying.  He asked why should the person at fault be relieved of the            
obligation, then have our individual tax rate and insurance and                
health care rates raised.                                                      
                                                                               
MAURI LONG, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), LAWYER, PRESIDENT,                 
TRIAL LAWYER ASSOCIATION, ANCHORAGE, noted strong opposition to HB
58.  Ms. Long focused attention on Section 42, the Worker's                    
compensation lien, which would cause significant problems.  This               
section would take the collateral benefits Section 17 and the                  
allocation of fault, Section 16, and create a collision of those               
two concepts by removing the benefit of the worker's compensation              
system.  She discussed that the proposed language would allow for              
"an empty chair" defense.  That language would increase the scope              
of litigation and would clearly stipulate that a jury could not                
determine a fair cost to pay.  A plaintiff may not recover.  She               
urged the Committee to consider these issues and strike the                    
inappropriate language.                                                        
                                                                               
Representative Grussendorf asked Ms. Long's opinion of Section 21,             
Offers of Judgement.  Ms. Long believed that Offers of Judgement               
statute, currently in place is not very effective, and believed                
that changes could make it more useful.  Ms. Long provided                     
Committee members a copy of a Sectional Analysis of House Bill 58.             
(Copy on file).                                                                
                                                                               
KAREN COWART, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ALASKA GENERAL                   
INDUSTRY SUPPORT ALLIANCE, ANCHORAGE, spoke in support of HB 58.               
She presented her organization's 1997 legislative priorities:                  
                                                                               
     *    Continue to close Alaska's fiscal gap;                               
     *    Support legislation that promotes sound development of               
          oil and gas; and                                                     
     *    Support the passage of comprehensive tort reform.                    
                                                                               
Ms. Coward provided Committee members a copy of her testimony.                 
(Copy on file).                                                                
                                                                               
ORIN SEYBERT, (TESTIFIED VIA TELECONFERENCE), ALASKA AIR CARRIERS              
ASSOCIATION, ANCHORAGE, spoke in support of the legislation.  He               
noted that air carriers are presently being impaired by a lack of              
insurance underwriting capacity.  Alaska has a potential for the               
highest punitive damage awards in the nation.  Mr. Seybert urged               
the Committee's support of the legislation.  (Copy of testimony on             
file).                                                                         
                                                                               
JEFFREY W. BUSH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND               
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, submitted a copy of a letter dated March 7,              
1997, and sent to Representative Porter discussing HB 58.  (Copy on            
file).  He identified fourteen points of concern to the Knowles                
Administration.  He advised that three of those concerns would be              
addressed through amendments provided by Representative Porter.                
                                                                               
He noted that he had served on the Governor's task force for Civil             
Justice reform.  The bill which the Governor has introduced is the             
product resulting from that task force.  He advised that the                   
Administration has a "problem" with some of the sections in HB 58,             
which are substantially different from those presented through the             
Governor's legislation.                                                        
                                                                               
The technical issues are:                                                      
                                                                               
     *    Section 5: Statute of Repose.  In previous versions of               
          the tort legislation, the statute of repose proposal has             
          included a provision permitting a contractual override of            
          the time limit, an exemption that the State relies upon.             
                                                                               
                                                                               
     *    Section 6: Special Statute of Response for Minors.  The              
          intention of that change was to impact the statute of                
          limitations for minors, not the statute of repose.  As               
          drafted, it is a limiting statute of repose, more                    
          restrictive than the general one for adults contained in             
          Section 5.  The Department of Law suggested that language            
          is likely unconstitutional.                                          
                                                                               
     *    Section 9: Standard for Punitive Damages.  The phrase                
          being inserted should say "deliberated disregard of                  
          another person's rights" instead of "deliberate disregard            
          of another person".  He stressed that the language should            
          be consistent with State law.                                        
                                                                               
     *    Section 11.  Taxes on Award.  This section would allow a             
          defendant a deduction for taxes that would otherwise be              
          payable were the award taxable, and should only apply to             
          damages for traditionally taxable compensatory damage.               
          It should not apply to compensation for medical costs                
          incurred.  As written, a verdict for medical                         
          reimbursement only could have a deduction applied,                   
          leaving the victim without full compensation for medical             
          expenses.                                                            
                                                                               
     *    Section 15.  Collateral Benefits.  Mr. Bush suggested                
          that the last sentence in proposed AS 09.17.070(b) which             
          allows a plaintiff to submit evidence of payments made               
          for the purchase of the collateral source should be                  
          removed.                                                             
                                                                               
     *    Section 20.  Expert Witness Qualifications.  He pointed              
          out that this section is unclear and needs substantial               
          work.  He continued, the section is also "troubling" in              
          its application.  When the Task Force reviewed this                  
          concept, Dr. Wilson spoke to the problems associated with            
          it's implementation in a state as small as Alaska.  The              
          solution would be to remove proposed AS 09.20.185(a)(1)              
          and (3), but leave in (2), thereby requiring that the                
          expert be trained and experienced in the relevant                    
          discipline, but not necessarily "licensed" or "board                 
          certified".                                                          
                                                                               
Mr. Bush continued, the Administration also had significant policy             
concerns with the following sections.                                          
                                                                               
     *    Sections 5 & 6:     Statutes of Repose.                              
     *    Section 8:          New Cap on Non-economic Damages.                 
     *    Section 10:         Punitive Damages.                                
     *    Section 15:         Collateral Benefits.                             
     *    Section 16 - 18:    Apportionment of Fault.                          
     *    Section 21:         Offers of Judgement.                             
     *    Section 36:         ER Doctors.                                      
     *    Section 62:         ADR.                                             
                                                                               
He urged the Committee to consider the approach recommended by the             
Governor.                                                                      
                                                                               
MICHAEL LESSMEIER, LAWYER, STATE FARM INSURANCE COMPANY, JUNEAU,               
testified in support of the proposed legislation.  He disagreed                
with testimony that insurance rates in Alaska are set on a national            
level and that nothing done in Alaska will affect the price of                 
insurance.  He added that State Farm strongly disagrees with that              
proposition, as established, and that State Farm's rates in Alaska             
are determined primarily by the loss experienced.  The fact that               
State Farm has returned significant amounts of money to policy                 
holders is evidence of their intent.  He added, other mutual                   
companies have also returned money to Alaska policy holders.                   
                                                                               
Ms. Lessmeier believed that the legislation would improve losses in            
Alaska.  Improvement in that loss experience will be reflected in              
the premiums insurance companies charge for their products.                    
                                                                               
He spoke to several additional provisions within the legislation.              
State Farm feels strongly that Section 10 and the language on                  
punitive damages, suggesting that claims are frequent.  Without                
exception, these claims are time consuming and expensive to defend             
and they impose a tremendous burden in confronting.  The limitation            
proposed in the bill would lessen the burden.                                  
                                                                               
The second important issue to State Farm is the liability provision            
contained in Sections 16-18.  He reminded members that in 1988,                
voters in Alaska adopted several liability provision through the               
initiative process.  The ballot told the voters that the                       
"initiative would make each party liable for only the damages equal            
to his or her share of fault".  Five years later, the Supreme Court            
ruled that fault could be apportioned only to those who were                   
formally named as parties to the action.  Thus, instead of the                 
party being liable only for damages, they could then be held liable            
for damages caused by the fault of another.  (Copy of testimony on             
file).                                                                         
                                                                               
Mr. Lessmeier spoke to Section 21, which would dramatically change             
the law on offers of judgement, a significant incentive to evaluate            
the position early and in a responsible way.  The section simply               
provides that if a party betters by more than 5% of an offer of                
judgement entered within 60 days of initial disclosures, that party            
may recover reasonable actual attorney fees.                                   
                                                                               
Mr. Lessmeier addressed Section 48, which would provide a certain              
deterrent for those that come to court and intentionally make false            
statements of material fact.  He stressed that this provision was              
not controversial.                                                             
                                                                               
Mr. Lessmeier stressed that every person who drives a car, buys an             
insurance policy, every Alaskan that has a homeowners policy on                
their home, or who flies to a bush community and every small                   
business owner would be benefited by passage of HB 58.  He urged               
the Committee's support of the bill.                                           
                                                                               
Representative J. Davies asked how each of those persons would be              
benefited through passage of the bill.  Mr. Lessmeier replied, to              
the extend that the bill will effect "loss experience", insurance              
companies will then be able to offer an affordable insurance                   
policy.  Representative J. Davies asked if "affordable" meant                  
"cheaper".  Mr. Lessmeier affirmed that it would be cheaper than it            
would be without the bill.  Representative J. Davies pointed out               
that insurance companies continue to say that the legislation will             
save money, although, they are not willing to state that consumers             
will be able to purchase less expensive policies.                              
                                                                               
Mr. Lessmeier agreed, but pointed out that insurance companies do              
not know what the Court System will do with the legislation.  He               
referenced the process that accompanied the initiative passed in               
1978.  Mr. Lessmeier distributed a handout:  THE ROLE OF PUNITIVE              
DAMAGES IN CIVIL LITIGATION: NEW EVIDENCE FROM LAWSUIT FILINGS.                
(Copy on file).                                                                
                                                                               
PAM LABOLLE, PRESIDENT, ALASKA STATE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE (ASCC),               
JUNEAU, spoke in support of the proposed legislation which would               
decrease the costs in resolving cases, to discourage frivolous                 
litigation, to promote fair compensation and to promote the                    
predictability of outcomes.  (Copy of testimony on file).                      
                                                                               
Ms. LaBolle stated that the greatest benefit would be the change to            
the punitive damage section.  Under today's tort system, punitive              
damages can be assessed even when there has been no willful act or             
intentional wrongdoing on anyone's part.  In addition, in criminal             
or administrative law, the level of punishment is pre-established.             
Punitive damages are known as "litigation lottery", because they               
can be assessed without intentional wrong-doing on anyone's part;              
she stressed that the "sky was the limit".  Statistics do not show             
the impact of punitive damages.                                                
                                                                               
(Tape Change HFC 97-59, Side 2).                                               
                                                                               
Ms. LaBolle noted that the current system is not "fair" and that               
the number of lawsuits are not accurately reflected in the                     
statistics.  She suggested that this is one of the most flagrant               
abuses of justice existing in Alaska's tort law system today, and              
one of the most expensive.  The Alaska State Chamber wants to see              
parameters put in place.  Punitive damages should only be assessed             
when there is clear and convincing evidence of malicious intent,               
outrageous conduct, or reckless indifference.  There should be                 
equal justice for all and that small businesses are impacted the               
most by the current system.  She strongly urged support of HB 58.              
                                                                               
HB 58 was HELD in Committee for further consideration.                         
ADJOURNMENT                                                                    
                                                                               
The meeting adjourned at 4:00 P.M.                                             
                                                                               
                                                                               

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